super user clone & x-server disabling John_L_Jones at
Fri Aug 23 18:39:01 CDT 2002

Thanks for the clarification Phil. I was out in left field (out past the
backstop on this one...)

I wonder if RH 7.3 somehow does utilize the wheel group since there is a
wheel group created after
install in /etc/group....


-----Original Message-----
From: Philip Rowlands [mailto:phr at]
Sent: Friday, August 23, 2002 4:54 PM
To: linux-poweredge at
Subject: RE: super user clone & x-server disabling

On Fri, 23 Aug 2002 John_L_Jones at wrote:

>I may be way out in left field on this but...
>On other Unix systems, you can add a user to the wheel group and then
>be able to function as root, but with a user name.
>Anyone correct me if I am wrong with this. I *believe* this is how it works
>on Solaris...

No. The wheel group is just a convention for "trusted users". It gives
no special privileges other than those the sysadmin chooses to bestow by
chgrp'ing files to wheel. RH73 ships with no such files.

For example, a common security measure is to put /bin/su in the wheel
group, then "chmod 4750 /bin/su". This can also be done to utilities
not usually SUID root, e.g. tcpdump.

There is no other magic that would allow a non-root wheel member to
chown files, manipulate network interfaces, bypass file permissions etc.



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