Advice for a debian server
Johan Sjöberg
johan.sjoberg at deltamanagement.se
Tue Sep 7 07:55:30 CDT 2010
> -----Original Message-----
> From: linux-poweredge-bounces at dell.com [mailto:linux-poweredge-
> bounces at dell.com] On Behalf Of John Hodrien
> Sent: den 7 september 2010 13:42
> To: linux-poweredge at dell.com
> Subject: RE: Advice for a debian server
>
> On Tue, 7 Sep 2010, Johan Sjöberg wrote:
>
> > Well, that's a nice flamebait if I ever saw one...
>
> Quite, but that doesn't mean you need to rise to it.
>
> > These "enterprise" distros are generally very bloated. Who wants
> Bluetooth
> > support and a desktop environment on a server?
>
> A single kickstart for what you like and you get what you want with the
> minimum of fuss. Anyway, why does RHEL have to be for servers. I use the
> same base OS for servers, desktops, and appliance type devices. It's all
> good.
>
> > You need to do a lot af deselecting when installing RHEL/CentOS to get a
> > reasonably slim installation.
>
> Yes, it's not as good as some distros if you want a really tight install, but
> you can get /reasonably/ small, /reasonably/ easily.
>
> > And you are also "forced" to use LVM, which is quite unneccesary when
> you
> > use hardware RAID.
>
> No you're not. LVM is the default, but a couple of clicks during the install
> and you can ignore it entirely. Also, if you think hardware RAID negates all
> the benefits of LVM then you really don't understand LVM.
>
> > Debian is really lightweight and reliable (yes it is).
>
> Sure. But that doesn't make RHEL unreliable. They're both much more
> reliable
> than IRIX ;)
>
> > The fact a product is commercial doesn't make it more reliable. Sure, it's
> > nice to have commercial support, if you need it. Correct me if I'm wrong,
> > but it's not like RedHat codes all their packages themselves. The "hobby
> > developer's" code goes into RHEL as well.
>
> Absolutely. And to throw the inverse into the mix, it's not like Debian
> doesn't benefit from the work done by Redhat or other commercial linux
> vendors.
>
> jh
Of course, I'm no Debian fanatic or so, but the statement that RHEL is superior was quite provoking. We use RHEL and CentOS on a number of machines. Mostly Dell servers, since the Debian support from Dell is near to non-existent, and we need OMSA for monitoring the hardware. On HP we generally use Debian, since they provide Debian packages of system management applications and drivers.
/Johan
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