Open_Source

madunix madunix at gmail.com
Tue Jun 9 05:24:50 CDT 2009


so people do not be afraid to think outside the the box....
Finally, out of my experience with Linux and FreeBSD  is that once a
setup is working, it stays working, sometimes the initial setup takes
longer , I ll be honest, there have been times when I spent days
trying to get something working on Linux and FreeBSD, but once
everything is configured right, it just works and works well.


Thanks
madunix


On Fri, Jun 5, 2009 at 6:06 AM, <Daniel_Curry at dell.com> wrote:
> Chris,
>
> You may want to invest in one of these:
> http://www.silverneedle.net/content.php?id=121.  :)
>
> The rest of the list,
>
> I know that at a previous employ we used Linux as the development
> platform of the CokeMusic.com site.  Clustering services, the variety of
> development tools, everything for the development was readily available.
> And our product then worked on the clustered Sun equipment with Oracle
> backend and WebSphere as the app server.  We only had to tweak for
> performance.  But none of those were used 'in-house' except by the test
> and QA guys.  And even that was very scaled down.  An E10000 versus a
> Sparc 5.
>
> As the management and 'office staff' (ie, non-developers) were most
> comfortable with Windows, an MS environment was required.  However,
> whenever other needs were identified (e-mail filtering for SPAM and AV,
> etc), I put Linux solutions in place to save money.  As a start-up in
> Silicon Valley, it was always about services and solutions counter
> balanced against money.
>
> At another Silicon Valley employer before that I was responsible for
> assisting the Sales staff with identifying where we could deliver a
> machine with a Linux solution to satisfy the customer's needs.  In 2000,
> this was still in the back office more than the desktop, but we were
> still making those pushes.  We were constantly coming in under budget
> for projects and delivering customized (sometimes one-off) solutions to
> meet customer needs.
>
> Today, I work in Enterprise Tech Support for Dell.  I may not be
> designing and implementing solutions, any longer, but I still support
> people.  I am often asked, when an MS user is told I support both
> Windows and Linux products, which OS provides better solution for X
> purpose.  Sometimes they ask for more details, other times they disagree
> with my opinion.  But there it is.
>
> I'm really pleased to see Ubuntu pushing forward the way they are, to
> produce a sustainable and end-user friendlier Linux Distribution.  All
> of the distributions are improving in this area, as is our
> documentation.  The largest failing I see, today, is not so much with
> the OS, but with end-user expectations.  So many of people remember the
> days of DOS, but have forgotten the learning curve they had to become
> fluent.  With the variety of Windows systems, each has been a training
> platform for the next.  Thereby lowering the initial learning curves for
> the 'upgrade'.  Users expect Linux and it's graphical environment to be
> the same as Windows.  So, when they have to learn something new, many
> stumble, become frustrated and revert back to what they know.  Getting
> Linux onto the corporate desktops will require ways to get around this
> issue, quickly.  Labor is still one of the most expensive resources to a
> company.  The less time spent training, retraining and learning new
> platforms, the lower the entry point for corporations of all sizes and
> the more attractive F/OSS solutions can become.
>
> That is my opinion, anyway.
>
> Daniel Curry, RHCE
> 3rd Shift Enterprise Support
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: linux-poweredge-bounces at lists.us.dell.com
> [mailto:linux-poweredge-bounces at lists.us.dell.com] On Behalf Of
> christian.peper at kpn.com
> Sent: Thursday, June 04, 2009 3:52 AM
> To: linux-poweredge-Lists
> Subject: RE: Open_Source
>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> I want to know out of your experience people the following,
>> 1- How open source served your businesses  requirements?
>> 2- What kind of application that running on Open Source?
>> 3- General experience with Open Source technology?
>>
>
> It serves bus reqs because it costs less than a high-end Unix systems.
> Scaling horizontally vs vertically makes more and mroe sense these days
> with database driven web apps. I can use a Unix high-end database server
> that drives low cost open source web servers and add more web servers as
> demand grows. If you're multi-tier and setup properly, this works.
> However, many of our legacy apps don't fit into this yet. We're working
> on that. As our many other large firms in the Netherlands (KLM,
> Rabobank, SNS Reaal, Aegon, Telfort, Shell, etc.) We're starting to eye
> OpenSolaris as a possible follow-up for Sun Solaris to perhaps limit the
> use of costly Sun hardware/software even further.
>
> Apps we run on (Oracle) Linux: Siebel, Stellent, Peoplesoft, Oracle DB,
> AIA, AS, and many more.
>
> Experiences are great. But you do require knowledgable people (i.e. me!)
> and time to check needs, inventorize possibilities and create and
> certify your stack with suppliers and manufacturers. But is no different
> from using a Windows stack, except the OSS stack has more variables.
> Windows is easy, too easy and no fun. ;) OSS presents a nice challenge
> to separate then men from the boys. Hihi, pun intended, let the flames
> begin!
>
> Chris.
>
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