pe2900: pci-e card not detected

Fri Nov 14 11:26:12 CST 2008

On Fri, Nov 14, 2008 at 7:34 AM, Brian O'Mahony
<brian.omahony at curamsoftware.com> wrote:
> Ive seen 3rd party cards not work on HP, IBM, Dell, Sun. That's why they are called third party. Most of those companies will list a specific list of cards that have been tested. A company cannot test every card out there to see if it works.

Agreed, I've certainly seen my share of hardware incompatabilities.
But the bios usually gives a message that pci slot x:y:z was disabled
for reason abc.

> And Dell has never supported graphics cards in their server systems. They may or may not work, but they don't support them. I don't know about the other manufacturers.

With the older crop of video cards I can't really see this as being a
big issue for a lot of people.  However with GPUs being used for
things other than graphics nowadays that could definitely put a damper
on some peoples uses for the machines.

If there is such a thing as a bios whitelist or blacklist in place on
the 2900s, it would be nice to know ahead of time.  It reminds of the
thinkpad 1802 errors with thirdparty mini-pci wireless cards wherein
the card was fine but the bios 'elected' not to use the card.  But at
least there, one would get an error message.

-n

> B
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: linux-poweredge-bounces at dell.com [mailto:linux-poweredge-bounces at dell.com] On Behalf Of Noah Dain
> Sent: 13 November 2008 22:24
> To: linux-poweredge at lists.us.dell.com
> Subject: Re: pe2900: pci-e card not detected
>
> On Thu, Nov 13, 2008 at 3:49 PM,  <Stuart_Hayes at dell.com> wrote:
>>
>> Dell doesn't put anything in the BIOS specifically to block any storage
>> controllers (or video controllers, on this system, I don't believe,
>> though there have been systems that haven't worked with plug-in video
>> cards in the past as I recall for technical reasons).
>
> This is what I initially thought as well.  It's as if the slots done
> even get power, or the system is blocking them at a very low level.
>
>>
>> Do you have the manufacturer and model number for the storage card that
>> you have that isn't showing up?
>
> manuf: AMS
> SKU: SP-PCIE3132
>
> not much of a page for it, but it's as close as I can come.
> http://prostores2.carrierzone.com/servlet/amselectronicscom/Detail?no=785
>
> I just wanted a simple card for esata, so we can do mass dumps of info
> from the perc arrays.  The 3124 and 3132 chip are known to have
> excellent linux supprot (including hotswap).
>
> Basically, Its a silicon image 3132 using the current silicon image
> firmware.  Nothing "value added" or branding from AMS to be seen.
>
> -noah
>
>>
>> Thanks
>> Stuart
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: linux-poweredge-bounces at dell.com
>> [mailto:linux-poweredge-bounces at dell.com] On Behalf Of Erik Anderson
>> Sent: Wednesday, November 12, 2008 11:57 PM
>> To: Noah Dain; linux-poweredge-Lists
>> Subject: Re: pe2900: pci-e card not detected
>>
>> Noah - I had the exact same issue with a similar SATA card about a year
>> ago. I spent many hours on the phone with Dell support, finally finding
>> out that the PCIe implementation on the PowerEdge servers doesn't
>> support most third-party mass storage cards.
>>
>> Needless to say, this frustrated me incredibly. Why would Dell
>> intentionally limit the hardware devices their servers are compatible
>> with? Seems pretty shady to me - perhaps a veiled attempt at forcing
>> customert to the PERC cards.
>>
>> -Erik
>>
>> On 11/12/08, Noah Dain <noahdain at gmail.com> wrote:
>>> I recently purchased a pci-express 1x esata card for a 2900 (silicon
>>> image 3132 chip).  It's the only card in the system (besides a perc
>>> 5/i).
>>>
>>> The card does not show up at all.  Not in the bios irq list, the OS's
>>> regular kernel, nor knoppix.
>>>
>>> To troubleshoot:
>>> - manually loaded the sata_sil24 driver, still nothing.
>>> - plugged it into a workstation.  showed up and worked fine (xp and
>>> knoppix).
>>> - thinking that it was perhaps the card's firmware, I wiped it with a
>>> utility from silicon image.
>>> - with erased firmware, I plugged it into a workstation.  showed up
>>> and worked fine (xp and knoppix).
>>> - plugged it into the 2900: still no sign of it at all.
>>> - manually loaded the sata_sil24 driver, still nothing.
>>> - updated system firmware (bios, perc, backplane) and still nothing.
>>>
>>> -noah
>>>
>>>
>>> --- only system info below ---
>>>
>>> dmidecode snippet:
>>> '''
>>> Base Board Information
>>>         Manufacturer: Dell Inc.
>>>         Product Name: 0TM757
>>>         Version: A00
>>>         Serial Number: ..XXXXXXXXXXXXX.
>>> '''
>>> lspci:
>>> '''
>>> 00:00.0 Host bridge: Intel Corporation 5000X Chipset Memory Controller
>>
>>> Hub (rev 12) 00:02.0 PCI bridge: Intel Corporation 5000 Series Chipset
>>
>>> PCI Express
>>> x4 Port 2 (rev 12)
>>> 00:03.0 PCI bridge: Intel Corporation 5000 Series Chipset PCI Express
>>> x4 Port 3 (rev 12)
>>> 00:04.0 PCI bridge: Intel Corporation 5000 Series Chipset PCI Express
>>> x4 Port 4 (rev 12)
>>> 00:05.0 PCI bridge: Intel Corporation 5000 Series Chipset PCI Express
>>> x4 Port 5 (rev 12)
>>> 00:06.0 PCI bridge: Intel Corporation 5000 Series Chipset PCI Express
>>> x8 Port 6-7 (rev 12)
>>> 00:07.0 PCI bridge: Intel Corporation 5000 Series Chipset PCI Express
>>> x4 Port 7 (rev 12)
>>> 00:08.0 System peripheral: Intel Corporation 5000 Series Chipset DMA
>>> Engine (rev 12) 00:10.0 Host bridge: Intel Corporation 5000 Series
>>> Chipset Error Reporting Registers (rev 12)
>>> 00:10.1 Host bridge: Intel Corporation 5000 Series Chipset Error
>>> Reporting Registers (rev 12)
>>> 00:10.2 Host bridge: Intel Corporation 5000 Series Chipset Error
>>> Reporting Registers (rev 12) 00:11.0 Host bridge: Intel Corporation
>>> 5000 Series Chipset Reserved Registers (rev 12) 00:13.0 Host bridge:
>>> Intel Corporation 5000 Series Chipset Reserved Registers (rev 12)
>>> 00:15.0 Host bridge: Intel Corporation 5000 Series Chipset FBD
>>> Registers (rev 12) 00:16.0 Host bridge: Intel Corporation 5000 Series
>>> Chipset FBD Registers (rev 12) 00:1c.0 PCI bridge: Intel Corporation
>>> 631xESB/632xESB/3100 Chipset PCI Express Root Port 1 (rev 09) 00:1d.0
>>> USB Controller: Intel Corporation 631xESB/632xESB/3100 Chipset UHCI
>>> USB Controller #1 (rev 09)
>>> 00:1d.1 USB Controller: Intel Corporation 631xESB/632xESB/3100 Chipset
>>
>>> UHCI USB Controller #2 (rev 09)
>>> 00:1d.2 USB Controller: Intel Corporation 631xESB/632xESB/3100 Chipset
>>
>>> UHCI USB Controller #3 (rev 09)
>>> 00:1d.3 USB Controller: Intel Corporation 631xESB/632xESB/3100 Chipset
>>
>>> UHCI USB Controller #4 (rev 09)
>>> 00:1d.7 USB Controller: Intel Corporation 631xESB/632xESB/3100 Chipset
>>
>>> EHCI USB2 Controller (rev 09) 00:1e.0 PCI bridge: Intel Corporation
>>> 82801 PCI Bridge (rev d9) 00:1f.0 ISA bridge: Intel Corporation
>>> 631xESB/632xESB/3100 Chipset LPC Interface Controller (rev 09)
>>> 00:1f.1 IDE interface: Intel Corporation 631xESB/632xESB IDE
>>> Controller (rev
>>> 09)
>>> 01:00.0 PCI bridge: Intel Corporation 80333 Segment-A PCI
>>> Express-to-PCI Express Bridge
>>> 01:00.2 PCI bridge: Intel Corporation 80333 Segment-B PCI
>>> Express-to-PCI Express Bridge 02:0e.0 RAID bus controller: Dell
>>> PowerEdge Expandable RAID controller 5 04:00.0 PCI bridge: Broadcom
>>> EPB PCI-Express to PCI-X Bridge (rev c3) 05:00.0 Ethernet controller:
>>> Broadcom Corporation NetXtreme II BCM5708 Gigabit Ethernet (rev 12)
>>> 06:00.0 PCI bridge: Intel Corporation 6311ESB/6321ESB PCI Express
>>> Upstream Port (rev 01)
>>> 06:00.3 PCI bridge: Intel Corporation 6311ESB/6321ESB PCI Express to
>>> PCI-X Bridge (rev 01) 07:00.0 PCI bridge: Intel Corporation
>>> 6311ESB/6321ESB PCI Express Downstream Port E1 (rev 01) 07:01.0 PCI
>>> bridge: Intel Corporation 6311ESB/6321ESB PCI Express Downstream Port
>>> E2 (rev 01) 08:00.0 PCI bridge: Broadcom EPB PCI-Express to PCI-X
>>> Bridge (rev c3) 09:00.0 Ethernet controller: Broadcom Corporation
>>> NetXtreme II BCM5708 Gigabit Ethernet (rev 12) 10:0d.0 VGA compatible
>>> controller: ATI Technologies Inc ES1000 (rev 02) '''
>>>
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>>
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>> Erik Anderson
>> http://andersonfam.org
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