list-admin :: default to 'reply-to' the list ?
Daniel Silverman
zeno at cyber.law.harvard.edu
Wed Nov 1 10:57:31 CST 2006
Wouldn't the principle of least surprise trump the principle of
minimal-bandwidth? If the change is made, I would suggest a
prominent header on all messages that informs the sender of the
consequences of hitting "reply" without thinking.
To eliminate duplicate messages, add something similar to this to
your .procmailrc (if you use one). It has worked wonderfully for me
at eliminating this problem, and allowed me to think about more
productive things than forcing the listmaster on every list I
subscribe to to twiddle their settings just to make *my* life easier.
# Eliminate duplicate receives of the same message
:0 Wh: .msgid.cache.lock
| formail -D 8192 .msgid.cache
~Danny
On Nov 1, 2006, at 11:37 AM, Ken Snider wrote:
> Daniel Silverman wrote:
>> Many people want to munge Reply-To headers. They believe it makes
>> reply-to-list easier, and it encourages more list traffic. It really
>> does neither, and is a very poor idea.
>
> Really?
>
> It reduces email traffic, supporting the "principle of minimal-
> bandwidth",
> and is doubly important in today's spam-laden morass that is email.
>
> Without a munged Reply-To header, your choice is a) reply to the
> author, or
> b) generate two emails, one to the author, one to the list. How is
> this
> sensible if the vast majority of responses really only need one
> destination
> - the list?
>
> The "nodupes" setting in mailman is misleading and dangerous - if
> mailman
> sees your address on the header, with this option set, it will not
> send you
> a copy of your own post. How, then, are you supposed to verify the
> post even
> made it to the list?
>
> Lastly - principle of minimal effort: why support the default case
> that, for
> the vast majority of cases, requires a poster to delete a recipient?
> wouldn't it make more sense to have the list default reply actually
> go where
> the vast majority of posts are *intended* to go?
>
> --
> Ken Snider
>
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Daniel Silverman <zeno at cyber.law.harvard.edu>
"I'd take the awe of understanding over the awe of ignorance any day."
System Wrangler, Berkman Center for Internet & Society
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