Linux-PowerEdge digest, Vol 1 #741 - 10 msgs
qralston+ml.dell-poweredge at andrew.cmu.edu
Thu Dec 5 17:48:00 CST 2002
On Thu, 5 Dec 2002, Jeff Garzik wrote:
> Note that Cisco has _finally_ changed their docs to indicate that
> forcing settings is not a good thing.
I know some people who need to be hit over the head a few times with
those (changed) docs. Could you provide a pointer, please?
> this issue has been fixed. You can download the rawhide kernel with
> the updated [tg3] driver.
> > Please don't recommend using the "beta" or "unsupported" modules
> > on a production machine!
> I'm not. Please don't be so presumptuous.
> You apparently do not have the latest kernel, see above.
Rawhide is not the latest kernel.
Quoting directly from
> Raw Hide Can Be a Bit Tough to Chew on So Run at Your Own Risk
> (and Enjoyment)
> These releases have not been quality tested by Red Hat's Quality
> Assurance team. They may not boot. If they boot, they may not
> install. If they install, they may not do anything other then
> waste CPU cycles. If anything breaks, you most assuredly own the
> many fragments which will be littered across your floor.
> It may not be possible to upgrade from Red Hat to Raw Hide, from
> Raw Hide to Red Hat, or from Raw Hide to Raw Hide! If a stable
> upgrade path is important to you, please do not use Raw Hide.
> DO NOT USE THESE RELEASES FOR ANY WORK WHERE YOU CARE ABOUT YOUR
> APPLICATION RUNNING, THE ACCURACY OF YOUR DATA, THE INTEGRITY OF
> YOUR NETWORK, OR ANY OTHER PURPOSE FOR WHICH A RESPONSIBLE HUMAN
> WOULD USE A COMPUTER. (But then again what would be the fun of
> hacking Linux if there wasn't some risk involved. ;-)....)
Asking someone if they'd be willing to go test a Rawhide kernel (e.g.,
to see if it fixes a problem that's been reported) is acceptable.
Telling someone that a Rawhide kernel fixes their problem and that
they should go slap it on a production machine is *not* acceptable.
Until the Rawhide kernel makes it through the regression testing and
is posted as an official Red Hat Errata update, the problem with the
tg3 driver hasn't been fixed.
(Yes, I run stuff out of Rawhide. But I like the bleeding edge, and
I've been doing this long enough to know how to safely handle it.
(And if I get cut, it doesn't cost my organization a 5+ digit
James Ralston, Information Technology
Software Engineering Institute
Carnegie Mellon University, Pittsburgh, PA, USA
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