Jeremy Stoltz jstoltz at
Tue Apr 30 11:28:00 CDT 2002

I spent a week testing a MS Sql server databases on a Netapp 840 along with
a new product called Snapdrive. Snapdrive allows NFS mounted drives to
appear like a local drive on a Win2k box. In most of our tests the Netapp
performed better then local scsi drives. The tests were run on a older box,
HP LH4, with a Perc3 scsci card.

We ended up going with a EMC FC 4700 for the database for this application.
Mostly because Snapdrive is a very new product and we weren't comfortable
using it in a clustered MS Sql server environment. If we were using Oracle
or DB2 or  a database which fully supports the Netapp filers we probably
would of went with the Netapp.

Network Appliance as been very good about give is demo units or setting up a
test environment in their lab. When they started to try to sell us a filer
for our database application we were very skeptical. We asked for a demo
unit so we could run some tests ourselves. We got in a demo unit. Set it up
ourselves and went through the normal tech support channels to get a feel
how good their support was. BTW their support is excellent. It wasn't as
good with snapdrive because it was so new. But when tech support couldn't
answer some of our questions they setup a conference call the next day with
one of Snapdrives testers who could help us. Then after running some
preliminary tests a sales engineer come out and went over the results with
him. I haven't been able to get this type of service from Dell/EMC or Cisco
on their high end gear.

I don't know much about your application but an FC 4700 or FC 4500 san may
be a better solution then the IP 4700 or a Netapp.


----- Original Message -----
From: "Ed Martin" <ed.martin at>
To: <linux-poweredge at>
Cc: <jstoltz at>
Sent: Tuesday, April 30, 2002 3:41 AM
Subject: Re: NAS + NFS

> We are currently looking to purchase a high end NAS solution.  We would
want to share vis NFS to a number of Dell/Linux servers, and we'd start with
between 0.5 and 1 TB of disk.
> For us the two front runners are the Dell/EMC IP4700 or a NetApp Filer
(820 or 840 I think).  We are currently at the stage of talking to the two
vendors and getting quotes etc.
> I know Dell also offer solutions like the PV755N, but it doesn't seem to
be in the same league.  Also at a technology briefing a Dell guy admitted
that they were tuned to CIFS and not NFS.
> I'd be interested to hear anyone's comments on either of these in a
similar environment.  (Your comment below was very helpful Jeremy).  I have
to say at the moment that we favour the NetApp solution, but Dell/EMC are
due to see us again next week, so we'll see what they have to say.
> Also does anyone run a database using one of these devices?  Previously I
had always thought that databases and NFS don't mix, but NetApp for one
claim that they do.  They are Oracle certified and reckon that their filer
can be faster than local disk!  I am hoping to try PostgreSQL to see how
well it performs...  A PE2650 DB server running Linux and using a NAS filer
sounds very attractive right now!
> Yours,
> Ed
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> >>> "Jeremy Stoltz" <jstoltz at> 29/04/2002 18:36:55 >>>
> We have been using a Netapp F740 for about 30 servers which  need
> access to a shared file system for about a year. I have nothing but good
> things to a say about them so far. I can't tell you how impressed I was to
> come into work one day to find an email from the netapp saying a drive may
> fail, along with another from our shipping department saying I had a
> package. Which was the replacement drive. :) I have a clustered pair of
> F820's arriving in a few weeks.
> Jeremy
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