A rant on Dell and linux/ubuntu

O. Sinclair o.sinclair at gmail.com
Mon Jun 1 07:51:30 CDT 2009

That might be true, I don't know. I bought the supposedly "no-nonsense" 
Vostro and still found it loaded with x number of unwanted trialware.

Still I wonder if that is really the reason as to why a computer with 
exactly the same specs are cheaper with Windows than without.

But I think i have made my point and am now basically repeating myself. 
I still wish someone from Dell  could outline some strategy and, 
needless to say, I wish for a more visible and available non-windows 
sales tactic.

Art Alexion wrote:
> Of course, Dell pays money to MS, but the trialware suppliers pay Dell more than Dell pays MS.
> When I set up a new Dell (XP) for my job, at least a half hour of my setup time is spent removing pre-installed crapware.
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> Art Alexion
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> To: Linux on Dell desktops and notebooks discussion <linux-desktops at lists.us.dell.com>
> Sent: Mon Jun 01 04:27:37 2009
> Subject: Re: A rant on Dell and linux/ubuntu
> Of course I CAN buy computers with Windows and then install linux, in my
> case Kubuntu, on them. What I ask is WHY do I have to do that? Why is
> Dell only offering Ubuntu in 3-4 countries and, as it happens, the
> countries where hardware/software is comparatively cheap and easy to
> get? Where as in southern and eastern Africa, where I work, hardware and
> software is expensive and quite often pirated.
> I fail to understand why a computer with Windows is cheaper than one
> without, even taking into account any "rebate" offerings. As I assume
> that MS make money from Windows I assume Dell pay them money and not the
> other way around.
> I have also had the headache of the local M$ representative chasing me
> for issuing a tender for computers without operating system, assuming
> that we (in that case I worked for a government department) would pirate
> Windows on them.
> And no, I have not bought a support contract. Neither have I ever done
> so for Windows when I have bought computers. What I question is the
> level (or as it feels lately) or lack of commitment and the whole approach.
> I am not saying that Dell should abandon Windows or MS - but why "hide"
> the alternatives and why only offer in large countries and, again, why
> are we to pay more for a computer without a software we dont want?
> oldcpu wrote:
>> I suspect it may be difficult for Dell to come up with solid numbers as
>> to how many Linux users there are of their laptops.
>> In my case, the Ubuntu OEM offerings on a Dell Studio 15 was one of the
>> factors persuading me to purchase a Dell Studio 15. BUT like many Linux
>> users, even though there were Ubuntu Linux offerings, I purchased a Dell
>> Studio 15 with MS-Windows Vista installed. I did this because my spouse
>> uses MS-WinXP on her desktop, she wanted to try MS-Windows Vista, and
>> hence a dual boot was necessary. Soon after the laptop arrived, I
>> repartitioned the hard drive, creating a large partition for Linux and I
>> then successfully installed openSUSE-11.1 Linux. It runs well. I was
>> confident of a successful installation because of the ground work in
>> compatibility previously checked on that model laptop by Dell and Ubuntu.
>> Can you not adopt a similar approach from Africa ?
>> My Dell Studio 15 laptop boots to openSUSE-11.1 about 95% of the time.
>> But that boot usage (of only 5% Vista use) probably will NOT show up in
>> the Dell sales statistics ... (Also, since I put WinXP in a Virtual Box
>> session on openSUSE-11.1 Linux, my wife prefers to boot Linux instead of
>> Vista, and when in Linux run WinXP in a virtual box session).
>> O. Sinclair wrote:
>>> Where are we now? It is still US and UK and barely that. The number of 
>>> models is, put mildly, very limited. Living in Africa I though AT LEAST 
>>> Southafrica but no, not even.
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