A rant on Dell and linux/ubuntu
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Mon Jun 1 07:40:10 CDT 2009
Of course, Dell pays money to MS, but the trialware suppliers pay Dell more than Dell pays MS.
When I set up a new Dell (XP) for my job, at least a half hour of my setup time is spent removing pre-installed crapware.
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Sent: Mon Jun 01 04:27:37 2009
Subject: Re: A rant on Dell and linux/ubuntu
Of course I CAN buy computers with Windows and then install linux, in my
case Kubuntu, on them. What I ask is WHY do I have to do that? Why is
Dell only offering Ubuntu in 3-4 countries and, as it happens, the
countries where hardware/software is comparatively cheap and easy to
get? Where as in southern and eastern Africa, where I work, hardware and
software is expensive and quite often pirated.
I fail to understand why a computer with Windows is cheaper than one
without, even taking into account any "rebate" offerings. As I assume
that MS make money from Windows I assume Dell pay them money and not the
other way around.
I have also had the headache of the local M$ representative chasing me
for issuing a tender for computers without operating system, assuming
that we (in that case I worked for a government department) would pirate
Windows on them.
And no, I have not bought a support contract. Neither have I ever done
so for Windows when I have bought computers. What I question is the
level (or as it feels lately) or lack of commitment and the whole approach.
I am not saying that Dell should abandon Windows or MS - but why "hide"
the alternatives and why only offer in large countries and, again, why
are we to pay more for a computer without a software we dont want?
> I suspect it may be difficult for Dell to come up with solid numbers as
> to how many Linux users there are of their laptops.
> In my case, the Ubuntu OEM offerings on a Dell Studio 15 was one of the
> factors persuading me to purchase a Dell Studio 15. BUT like many Linux
> users, even though there were Ubuntu Linux offerings, I purchased a Dell
> Studio 15 with MS-Windows Vista installed. I did this because my spouse
> uses MS-WinXP on her desktop, she wanted to try MS-Windows Vista, and
> hence a dual boot was necessary. Soon after the laptop arrived, I
> repartitioned the hard drive, creating a large partition for Linux and I
> then successfully installed openSUSE-11.1 Linux. It runs well. I was
> confident of a successful installation because of the ground work in
> compatibility previously checked on that model laptop by Dell and Ubuntu.
> Can you not adopt a similar approach from Africa ?
> My Dell Studio 15 laptop boots to openSUSE-11.1 about 95% of the time.
> But that boot usage (of only 5% Vista use) probably will NOT show up in
> the Dell sales statistics ... (Also, since I put WinXP in a Virtual Box
> session on openSUSE-11.1 Linux, my wife prefers to boot Linux instead of
> Vista, and when in Linux run WinXP in a virtual box session).
> O. Sinclair wrote:
>> Where are we now? It is still US and UK and barely that. The number of
>> models is, put mildly, very limited. Living in Africa I though AT LEAST
>> Southafrica but no, not even.
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