A rant on Dell and linux/ubuntu

oldcpu oldcpu at opensuse-forums.org
Mon Jun 1 03:46:59 CDT 2009

Ahh ... so the complaint is NOT that you can not buy a Dell that is
Linux compatible, ... the complain is you can not buy a Dell with Linux

Given how easy it is to install Linux when a manufacturer (like Dell)
take the time and effort to ensure their offering is Linux compatible,
then I don't see that as a big issue. To me what is important is Linux
runs on the PC, and it runs because Dell with Ubuntu support took the
time to ensure it does run. That benefits all Linux distributions.

If I wanted to be negative in my assessment, I would rant and complain
why does Dell only offer Ubuntu and not x-Linux nor y-Linux. The truth
is it does not matter what Linux, as long as it is a reasonably
supported Linux that tries to follow the Linux trends and rather loose
standards. Linux is Linux and as long as Dell have taken the time and
effort to ensure compatibility with Linux (and clearly they have done
so) then IMHO that is adequate.

And clearly YOU CAN get a Dell laptop that will work with Ubuntu. Its
just you don't want to install Ubuntu on a Linux compatible Dell PC.
That was NOT clear from your initial rant (per the subject: "A rant on
Dell and linux/ubuntu).

In truth, from my perspective, this is a Ubuntu rant, and not a Linux rant.

O. Sinclair wrote:
> Of course I CAN buy computers with Windows and then install linux, in my
> case Kubuntu, on them. What I ask is WHY do I have to do that? 
oldcpu wrote:
>> I suspect it may be difficult for Dell to come up with solid numbers as
>> to how many Linux users there are of their laptops.
>> In my case, the Ubuntu OEM offerings on a Dell Studio 15 was one of the
>> factors persuading me to purchase a Dell Studio 15. BUT like many Linux
>> users, even though there were Ubuntu Linux offerings, I purchased a Dell
>> Studio 15 with MS-Windows Vista installed. I did this because my spouse
>> uses MS-WinXP on her desktop, she wanted to try MS-Windows Vista, and
>> hence a dual boot was necessary. Soon after the laptop arrived, I
>> repartitioned the hard drive, creating a large partition for Linux and I
>> then successfully installed openSUSE-11.1 Linux. It runs well. I was
>> confident of a successful installation because of the ground work in
>> compatibility previously checked on that model laptop by Dell and Ubuntu.
>> Can you not adopt a similar approach from Africa ?
>> My Dell Studio 15 laptop boots to openSUSE-11.1 about 95% of the time.
>> But that boot usage (of only 5% Vista use) probably will NOT show up in
>> the Dell sales statistics ... (Also, since I put WinXP in a Virtual Box
>> session on openSUSE-11.1 Linux, my wife prefers to boot Linux instead of
>> Vista, and when in Linux run WinXP in a virtual box session).
>> O. Sinclair wrote:
>>> Where are we now? It is still US and UK and barely that. The number of 
>>> models is, put mildly, very limited. Living in Africa I though AT LEAST 
>>> Southafrica but no, not even.
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